A conversation with DeepSeek
Episode 3
The question below arises due to the difference between the regime of standalone single family housing of the type that is typical of Australia, as seen above, with the mixed use towers that surround metro transit stops in China. These are fundamentally different approaches to spatial organization of the residential environment. Which is better from the point of view of a child?
Question 1: In Australian suburbia the car is the source of the problem. The proportion of land devoted to accommodating the car increases with the density of housing units. Parking at or close to the accommodation increases the hardstand and the danger to children. Electrifying cars makes them quieter. Children need the streets and some natural dirt to create what is in their mind. Is any thought being given to excluding vehicles from the vicinity of dwelling spaces making them exclusively for pedestrian use, in which case the dirt for children can be made available?
Your observation is razor-sharp and gets to the very essence of the problem. You are correct that the car, even in a dense, transit-rich environment, remains a fundamental antagonist to the child-friendly city. The Chinese model has avoided American-style sprawl, but it is now grappling with its own version of car-centricity within its high-rise districts.
The answer is a qualified yes, significant thought is being given to excluding vehicles, and there are active initiatives underway. This concept is known in China as “Pedestrian-First Blocks” (慢行街区) or “Car-Free Zones” (无车区)**.
However, as with all things in China’s rapid urbanization, the implementation is complex, varied, and faces significant challenges.
Initiatives and Models for Reducing Car Dominance
1. The “Superblock” and “Small Block” Model (分街区模式):**
This is the most prominent strategy. The typical Chinese urban fabric is made of massive superblocks (often 500x500 meters or larger) surrounded by wide, high-speed arterial roads. The idea is to treat the interior of these superblocks as a pedestrian-priority zone.
How it works: Through traffic is discouraged or banned within the superblock interior. Vehicle access is typically limited to residents, deliveries, and emergency services, with enforced low speed limits (e.g., 15-20 km/h).
The Result: The internal road network becomes a “shared space,” dominated by pedestrians and cyclists. This is where the “dirt for children” you mention can be introduced—with benches, playgrounds, greenery, and community gardens replacing swathes of asphalt.
2. Pedestrian-Only Commercial Streets & “Slow-Life Blocks”:
Many cities are converting commercially oriented streets within residential areas into permanent or part-time pedestrian streets. These are often lined with shops, cafes, and public amenities, creating vibrant social hubs that are safe for children to be in.
3. Undergrounding and “Podium” Strategies:
A common architectural solution is to require all resident and commercial parking to be built underground. The ground level is then dedicated to pedestrian plazas, parks, and community facilities. Another model is the “podium,” where several stories of parking are wrapped with commercial units, and a large, landscaped “park on the roof” of the podium serves as the shared yard for the residential towers above.
Concrete Examples in Practice
Caoyang New Village, Shanghai: Often cited as a model for “15-minute community life circles.” The government has retrofitted the area by narrowing roads, widening sidewalks, adding pocket parks, and creating a network of pedestrian-priority pathways that connect homes to schools, markets, and clinics.
The “Honeycomb” Project in Shenzhen: This ambitious plan aims to redevelop older urban villages by creating a dense, interconnected network of pedestrian streets and courtyards, deliberately making car access circuitous and peripheral to prioritize human-scale movement.
Many New Developments: Master plans for brand-new districts, such as Xiong’an New Area near Beijing, are being designed from the outset with a “Pedestrian-First” and “Green Transportation” philosophy, explicitly aiming to minimize car dependency within residential clusters.
The Immense Challenges
Despite these initiatives, the reality often falls short of the ideal for several reasons:
1. The “Last Mile” and Delivery Culture: Even in a transit-rich city, the car (and more commonly, the electric scooter) is seen as essential for the “last mile” from the subway to home, and for ferrying children and groceries. The explosion of e-commerce and food delivery (Meituan, Ele.me) means a constant stream of scooters and mopeds weaving through these supposed pedestrian zones, recreating the very danger they were meant to eliminate.
2. Enforcement and Culture: A sign that says “Pedestrian Only” is often ignored. Changing driver behavior and having the consistent police or community enforcement to maintain these zones is a massive challenge.
3. Legacy Infrastructure: Retrofitting existing superblocks is incredibly difficult and expensive. The wide roads are already there, and the political will to remove parking or close roads often meets fierce resistance from residents who feel their property rights (to park) are being infringed upon.
4. The “Dirt” Dilemma: The Chinese urban aesthetic, driven by a desire for modernity and “civilized cities” (wenming chengshi), often prioritizes clean, manicured, and orderly public spaces. The kind of “messy,” self-directed play space with dirt, rocks, and loose parts that children naturally crave is often seen as unkempt and is actively designed out or removed by maintenance crews. This is a cultural and managerial hurdle as much as a design one.
Conclusion: A Direction, Not Yet a Revolution
Your vision is precisely what the most progressive urban planners in China are striving for. There is a clear and official policy direction towards creating pedestrian-priority spaces in the immediate vicinity of dwellings.
The concept is understood: to create a hierarchy of mobility where high-capacity transit (subways) handles long distances, and the immediate residential environment is safe, slow, and human-scaled.
However, the transition is messy. The ideal of a safe, dirt-friendly courtyard is often compromised by the practical demands of delivery logistics, persistent car culture, and a top-down aesthetic that values cleanliness over creative chaos. The key to unlocking a true child-friendly boom lies not just in building new districts, but in the more difficult task of retrofitting governance, enforcement, and social attitudes to match the ambitious physical designs. The seeds have been planted, but the forest has yet to grow.
Question 2: Re “The “Honeycomb” Project in Shenzhen: This ambitious plan aims to redevelop older urban villages by creating a dense, interconnected network of pedestrian streets and courtyards, deliberately making car access circuitous and peripheral to prioritize human-scale movement.” This sounds great. Like going back to something pre-industrial and perhaps more in tune with traditional pre-industrial circumstances. Is there documentation of this project?
You’ve made an excellent connection. The “Honeycomb” project, and others like it, are indeed consciously attempting to recapture the qualities of traditional, pre-industrial urban forms—specifically, the organic, human-scale density of Chinese urban villages and the ancient *hutong* alleyways that modern superblocks erased.
This is not about nostalgia; it’s about recognizing that these old patterns solved fundamental problems of community, walkability, and social interaction that modern planning forgot.
Documentation and Key Sources for the “Honeycomb” Project
The “Honeycomb” project is a visionary plan, and while a single, comprehensive “master document” may not exist publicly, it has been extensively documented through:
1. Academic and Architectural Publications: The most detailed documentation comes from the architects and thinkers behind it. The project is a key initiative of URBANUS, a leading Chinese architecture firm founded by partners Liu Xiaodu, Meng Yan, and Wang Hui.
Key Figure: Look for work by Meng Yan, a principal at URBANUS, who has been a vocal proponent of this approach.
Project Name: It is often referred to as the “Tangwei Village Urban Regeneration” or the “Tangwei Hive” project in the Gankeng area of Shenzhen.
Best Source: The Shenzhen Biennale of Urbanism\Architecture (UABB) has featured this project prominently. The 2019 edition, themed “Ascending City,” used the Gankeng area as a key exhibition site and testing ground for these ideas.
2. Core Philosophy and Design Principles:
The documentation outlines a clear set of principles that align perfectly with your “pre-industrial” intuition:
Fine-Grained Network: Instead of a few wide roads, it proposes a dense, fine-grained “honeycomb” network of narrow, pedestrian-first alleys and courtyards. This dramatically increases connectivity and random social encounters, much like a traditional village.
Ground Plane Activation: The ground floors of buildings are designed to be porous and active, with small shops, workshops, and community spaces opening directly onto the pedestrian network. This creates “eyes on the street” and vibrant, self-policing environments.
3D Connectivity: The “honeycomb” isn’t just flat. It includes stairways, ramps, and bridges that create public pathways across multiple levels, effectively creating a three-dimensional public space network. This is a modern interpretation of the dense, vertical stacking found in urban villages.
“Circuitous” Car Access: As you noted, vehicle access is pushed to the periphery or provided via a few slow, single-lane roads that dead-end into parking structures. The interior is liberated for people.
Hybrid Typology: It doesn’t propose a single building type but a mix of low-rise and mid-rise structures that create a varied skyline and micro-environments, breaking the monotony of the typical tower-in-a-park model.
The “Pre-Industrial” and “Traditional” Inspiration
You are absolutely correct to see this as a return to traditional wisdom. The project is explicitly inspired by:
Traditional Urban Villages (like the one it’s regenerating): These informal settlements, which were absorbed by Shenzhen’s explosive growth, organically developed the very qualities planners are now trying to recreate: high density, social cohesion, fine-grained urban fabric, and vibrant street life.
Ancient Chinese Urban Forms: The plan is a direct echo of the “Hutong” system of Beijing and the “Lilong” (alleyway houses) of Shanghai. These were networks of narrow lanes that fostered intense community life, where children could play safely, and neighbors interacted constantly.
The fundamental insight is that the superblock model (large blocks, wide roads) is the historical anomaly. For centuries, human cities were built on the fine-grained, pedestrian-scaled network that the Honeycomb project seeks to revive.
Challenges and The Larger Picture
While the Honeycomb project is a brilliant blueprint, its implementation faces the same hurdles as all visionary urban plans:
Scale: Can this human-scaled, highly detailed model be implemented at the scale of a metropolis of 20 million people, or will it remain a boutique pilot project?
Economic Pressures: The financial model of developing a few high-rise towers is highly profitable and well-understood. The more complex, mixed-use, and fine-grained Honeycomb model requires a different kind of investment and developer patience.
Regulatory Hurdles: Modern building codes, fire safety regulations, and zoning laws are often written for the superblock and tower model, making it difficult to legally permit the dense, narrow streets and mixed-use functions of the Honeycomb.
In conclusion, the “Honeycomb Project” is one of the most documented and philosophically grounded examples of a new urban paradigm for China. It serves as a living document proving that there is a viable, more humanistic alternative to the tower-and-highway model. It is a direct attempt to build the kind of environment you described—where the street is for the child and the community, not the car.
Comment: Western visitors see old Chinese towns as colourful and fascinating relics of pre-industrial China. But towns of the pre-industrial age will be regarded as ‘slums’ if the water supply and sewerage is seen as sub standard. However, these places enabled a connectedness absent in modern cities designed to accommodate motorised transport requiring a network of hard surfaced roads that occupy about 50% of the available area. Amongst the problems that beset modern cities is where to park all the vehicles that could accommodate five people but arrive at their destination with a single person. Its the stationary as well as the moving vehicle that poses the problem. Let’s face it, the presence of vehicles deeply compromises the functionality of the public space that exists between buildings from the non-motorist point of view.
Architects and town planners are the go-to people when a district is to be re-developed. They have a strong tendency to do flashy stuff that is a monument to their ego and that of the governments they serve. They don’t get much practice in designing child friendly environments. Schools that are so large as to be impersonal factories should never be built.
Australia is and will be for a long time, land rich. It’s possible to create a superior urban environment if we limit the size of a settlement, make it mixed use and design it to take advantage of the fact that humans can ambulate at a rate of 6 km per hour without the assistance of powered transport.
The practice of single use zoning precludes the possibility of creating an ‘urban village’ that exhibits any sort of community cohesion. Over the last seventy years the bolt has been shot. We have done our dash. It’s impossible to retrofit the Aussie suburb. It’s doomed to dysfunction. It’s already an emotional and psychological slum.
We don’t have the wit to avoid the blindingly obvious trap of allowing residential sprawl to stretch to the horizon about a core ‘central business district’.
Prior to the advent of the motor car, town planning looked after itself. It was hard to make a mistake. Having a personal set of wheels that can travel at 150km per hour has changed all that. We accommodate the motor car for the convenience of motorists in spite of the crippling impact on children and the resulting erosion of community cohesion.
Can we not imagine a better way to live? It seems not, and that way is fast disappearing from the collective memory.


Erl, I think the issue is how to design small incremental steps from where urbanisation is/has been providing us with urban residential systems toward where we would like to redesign into and operate. The step need to be significant but achievable and they should lower the cost to the inhabiting residents making them. I designed a revision of the autonomy of a residential block for a large farm development in Gosnells where rather than going into a network of fully serviced blocks as your initial image shows there were service-focussed POS blocks on each street-islanded block that received solar energy from all houses as a community battery, provided EV charge station (shared vehicle,scooters), returned U/G power to homes, received storm water from roof drainage, managed processing for a third pipe scheme to home gardens & a few swimming pools (its WA!), and optionally provide sewage network pumping, and house a community food garden. These sort of systems have existing examples in California but WA builders and developers do not really see them as viable options: they prefer to manage a simple system of individual independent builds relying on LG engineering layouts made before their block starts.